Comments on: Let’s Play Long Ball! http://wevegotheart.com/2007/09/25/lets-play-long-ball/ Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:00:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: kristen23 http://wevegotheart.com/2007/09/25/lets-play-long-ball/#comment-131 kristen23 Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:16:00 +0000 http://wevegotheart.com/2007/09/25/lets-play-long-ball/#comment-131 I read this and had to go back and look at the stats too. Two games came to mind right away. The Mets Saturday night game of the double-header in late July. Rauch pitched a nice 7th, but brought our 6-3 lead to 6-5 in the 8th and still got the win. I remembered being frustrated at Shea because Manny let Rauch bat to return in the 8th and that seemed ridiculous to us. He returned to give up 2 runs and be pulled after one out.<br/><br/>There was a game against Arizona too where he gave up a run in a tied 5-5 game, making it 6-5 Arizona but still got the win after our guys rallied.<br/><br/>He's a good pitcher - I just don't like his lock on the set-up position. Here's hoping Ayala makes a case for taking it back in 08.<br/><br/>Anyway, aren't win numbers for relievers almost meaningless? The luck of the timing of a late inning rally... I read this and had to go back and look at the stats too. Two games came to mind right away. The Mets Saturday night game of the double-header in late July. Rauch pitched a nice 7th, but brought our 6-3 lead to 6-5 in the 8th and still got the win. I remembered being frustrated at Shea because Manny let Rauch bat to return in the 8th and that seemed ridiculous to us. He returned to give up 2 runs and be pulled after one out.

There was a game against Arizona too where he gave up a run in a tied 5-5 game, making it 6-5 Arizona but still got the win after our guys rallied.

He’s a good pitcher - I just don’t like his lock on the set-up position. Here’s hoping Ayala makes a case for taking it back in 08.

Anyway, aren’t win numbers for relievers almost meaningless? The luck of the timing of a late inning rally…

]]> By: riseupcleveland http://wevegotheart.com/2007/09/25/lets-play-long-ball/#comment-130 riseupcleveland Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:22:00 +0000 http://wevegotheart.com/2007/09/25/lets-play-long-ball/#comment-130 First of all, I want to apologize for incorrectly posting about Jon Rauch's stats. You are correct that he does not have a win resulting from a blown lead that tied the game. That was my mistake and I should have checked the stats better prior to posting. <br/><br/>With that said, I still stand by my statement that Rauch is an example of why we have to look past the numbers when evaluating a player. I have attended over 40 Nats games and often there is a mumble of concern when we see Rauch warming up and entering the game. He has had a great September, however he continues to make me nervous when he takes to the mound. <br/><br/>The recent discussion on Nats Journal brought the issue up and I feel much more comfortable with Rivera, Ayala or Albaladejo in a game. First of all, I want to apologize for incorrectly posting about Jon Rauch’s stats. You are correct that he does not have a win resulting from a blown lead that tied the game. That was my mistake and I should have checked the stats better prior to posting.

With that said, I still stand by my statement that Rauch is an example of why we have to look past the numbers when evaluating a player. I have attended over 40 Nats games and often there is a mumble of concern when we see Rauch warming up and entering the game. He has had a great September, however he continues to make me nervous when he takes to the mound.

The recent discussion on Nats Journal brought the issue up and I feel much more comfortable with Rivera, Ayala or Albaladejo in a game.

]]> By: John http://wevegotheart.com/2007/09/25/lets-play-long-ball/#comment-129 John Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:20:00 +0000 http://wevegotheart.com/2007/09/25/lets-play-long-ball/#comment-129 Exactly zero of Rauch's wins came in games where he relinquished the lead. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Exactly zero of Rauch’s wins came in games where he relinquished the lead. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch.

]]> By: Jonathan http://wevegotheart.com/2007/09/25/lets-play-long-ball/#comment-128 Jonathan Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:57:00 +0000 http://wevegotheart.com/2007/09/25/lets-play-long-ball/#comment-128 <i>Rauch is an example of why we have to look past the numbers when evaluating a player. Yes, he leads the Nats in wins, but most of those are only because he blew the lead and the offense was able to pick it back up.</i> <br/><br/>You might want to check Rauch's gamelogs on Baseball-Reference. None of Rauch's wins this year were the result of his blowing a lead (either through giving up a run on his own or by allowing an inherited runner to score)and then vulturing the win. In his first six wins this year he gave up zero runs. In his 7th win (7/28), he entered a tie game in the 7th with two on and two out. He got the third out, the Nats scored three and Rauch gave up two runs in the 8th. In his 8th win (8/12), Rauch entered a tie game in the 8th and gave up one run. The Nats got him off the hook with two in the top of the 9th. <br/><br/>The Nats did win two of the games (6/13 & 8/3) in which Rauch blew a save, but he didn't get the win in those games. Rauch is an example of why we have to look past the numbers when evaluating a player. Yes, he leads the Nats in wins, but most of those are only because he blew the lead and the offense was able to pick it back up.

You might want to check Rauch’s gamelogs on Baseball-Reference. None of Rauch’s wins this year were the result of his blowing a lead (either through giving up a run on his own or by allowing an inherited runner to score)and then vulturing the win. In his first six wins this year he gave up zero runs. In his 7th win (7/28), he entered a tie game in the 7th with two on and two out. He got the third out, the Nats scored three and Rauch gave up two runs in the 8th. In his 8th win (8/12), Rauch entered a tie game in the 8th and gave up one run. The Nats got him off the hook with two in the top of the 9th.

The Nats did win two of the games (6/13 & 8/3) in which Rauch blew a save, but he didn’t get the win in those games.

]]> By: ewrball4 http://wevegotheart.com/2007/09/25/lets-play-long-ball/#comment-127 ewrball4 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:11:00 +0000 http://wevegotheart.com/2007/09/25/lets-play-long-ball/#comment-127 "Rauch is an example of why we have to look past the numbers when evaluating a player. Yes, he leads the Nats in wins, but most of those are only because he blew the lead and the offense was able to pick it back up." <br/>So lets take a look at Rauch's numbers: The 8 games Rauch has won this year the score of the game when he came in was either tied or the Nats were losing! Lets take a look at some more of Rauch's numbers: Last 10 games:era@1.74, 10.1 innings, 3 walks and 15 K's. Rauch's Era for the past 30 days is at 1.32. You for some reason might have a problem with Rauch, however his numbers show that he is one of the best setup men in all of Baseball for 2007.<br/>Get a CLUE!! “Rauch is an example of why we have to look past the numbers when evaluating a player. Yes, he leads the Nats in wins, but most of those are only because he blew the lead and the offense was able to pick it back up.”
So lets take a look at Rauch’s numbers: The 8 games Rauch has won this year the score of the game when he came in was either tied or the Nats were losing! Lets take a look at some more of Rauch’s numbers: Last 10 games:era@1.74, 10.1 innings, 3 walks and 15 K’s. Rauch’s Era for the past 30 days is at 1.32. You for some reason might have a problem with Rauch, however his numbers show that he is one of the best setup men in all of Baseball for 2007.
Get a CLUE!!

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